I had a chance to ask Bill about that once and he acknowledged the problem and admitted it's the one problem with the tuners he hadn't been able to fix. Would I buy them again? Yes, but probably not the d-tuners - rather, the basic ones all around. I really like them. They tend to be a little bit longer than standard tuners, so you might need to verify they don't come into contact with the bottom of your case.
The angle of your headstock can affect this, and its length as well, since most Keith tuners are on the B and G strings, putting them the farthest "back" of all the tuners. They fit fine in my Stelling case, but in the cheap foam triangle case I got for short trips in the car, they bottom out, so I have to be extra careful using it.
I know people who have "Keith" tuners on all four strings, simply because they feel they are the best tuners on the market. Keith tuners have splined shafts which facilitate more precise adjustment of the buttons so they line up properly allowing hand alignment when using them. The knock off shafts are hexagonal. Any D tuner is going to be a bit more time consuming to tune.
However, unless you are planning on using them for some trick stuff, you don't have to lock the screws down. And if you are planning on doing tricks, just give them time to reach equilibrium if they have been subjected to extremes in temperature change. I wouldn't worry about them not fitting in your case. One of my banjos lives in a conventional case.
The other has done a good bit of traveling in a so called "soft" trapezoid case. No clearance issues with either case.
Yeah, Bela Fleck uses 4 of them for that very reason. He hardly ever plays with them. Something about how they transfer the tone quicker back to the head, to get the sound he wants. They have weights that clip to the peghead for that very purpose, and cheaper too. Hey, if Fleck is saying it, it has to be something to it right. Just like whatever Earl did was the gospel. But, I still don't know how he played with the strap on one shoulder, and 2 fingers planted against the head.
Tony Furtado wraps duct tape all over his head and tail piece, But, I don't think that will ever catch on. Some Guitar players have used clamp weights for years on their pegheads. I guess it's just a Progressive Banjo players thing, that he got from Progressive Guitar players, who probably got it from some Garage Band Guitar Player, who put a C-clamp on his peghead that he found laying around the garage during a break.
I have a pair of Keith tuners that I purchased about 50 years ago. They work as well today as they did when I purchased them. I have 4 mounted on my long neck which I use to play in open D on some songs. They work great for me.
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Proper end thumbscrew pressure is critical. Use of tools to tighten any screw on Keith tuners will void the lifetime warranty. If the washer on your banjo is black plastic, it should be replaced. It should slide freely all the way down until it contacts the metal gearbox. If it does not, then the plastic may have. This can cause slipping.
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This can be corrected by removing the side thumbscrews and adding a little light oil such as 3-in-1 oil, sewing machine oil, or penetrating oil. Remember: these tuners are precision-made, and require lubrication. If you continue to use them when they are dry and hard to turn, you may cause internal damage. Jan 22, 9. Jan 22, Waylon used them to get to D tuning quickly. Those sites have them.
They were originally called Scruggs tuners and folks use to make them themselves just like that pure genius Earl Scruggs did. You find directions on line. Go to the Banjo Hangout web site. I have two on both E strings on my Telecaster. I must say I find them to be a pain, at least for a Telecaster. Posts: I have two on my Tele too. I have keiths on my banjo and I find they ork great on there but I have never tried them with heavier string.
That being said, I know the Keith's are very nice but the Schallers aren't junk either. And about dollars less than the Keith tuners which will make your tuner holes larger to fit. It just depends on how much you think you'll use them. It is authentic, but note that the gear ratio means that getting it exactly in tune takes a bit more care than a guitar tuner.
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